Grid-Iron american football game language selector
Language
ČeštinaDanskDeutsch
EnglishEspañolEspañol (Latinoamérica)
FrançaisItalianoMagyar
NederlandsPolskiPortuguês (Brasil)
RomânăSlovenčinaSlovenščina
SrpskiSuomiБългарски
РусскийУкраїнська 
Register
Login
Division III.5 (Season 23)
 
SrednaDGI Supporter
Posts: 4589
Joined: 2010-11-02
II.3
Offline
Posted on 2017-01-25 7:44:40
icthalian wrote:

You're looking good Christy. Not looking forward to seeing you again next season!



You should be pleased. Having a numbers-gut like Christy in the division is great! And besides, you still have a remote chance (a bit lower than Hillary Clinton being president) that I could be promoting...

Christy will be missed - I am sure of that, but his campaign this season has been phenomenal!
  

"Quarterbacks should wear a dress." - Jack Lambert

If you are ever feeling down, just know that neither of Dorfenschmirtz's parents showed up to his birth.

Hard-core fan (ultimate supporter owner)ChristyGI Supporter
Posts: 2368
Joined: 2013-12-16
III.6
Offline
Hard-core fan (ultimate supporter owner)
Posted on 2017-01-25 14:40:27
SrednaD wrote:

icthalian wrote:

You're looking good Christy. Not looking forward to seeing you again next season!



You should be pleased. Having a numbers-gut like Christy in the division is great! And besides, you still have a remote chance (a bit lower than Hillary Clinton being president) that I could be promoting...

Christy will be missed - I am sure of that, but his campaign this season has been phenomenal!



First time I have gone above 12 wins in this division. Every season I have been in this division 15 wins has been enough but not so this time.

You have never let me really pull away with your own strong campaign. I was worried when you came into our division, relaxed when I thrashed you and have become steadily more worried since then.

My defense seems to have really stepped up this season to give me a good year. The offense was there already really but that is all down to the ages of the offense and defense.

I can try and get the sheet working as a Google sheet. I can also trim out a few things to make it easier to keep updated. I would love to see how numbers compare between divisions but don't have the time. Even between seasons has been interesting.
  

"In archery we have something like the way of the superior man. When the archer misses the center of the target, he turns round and seeks for the cause of his failure in himself.”— Confucius

SrednaDGI Supporter
Posts: 4589
Joined: 2010-11-02
II.3
Offline
Posted on 2017-01-27 8:52:09
Christy wrote:

SrednaD wrote:

icthalian wrote:

You're looking good Christy. Not looking forward to seeing you again next season!



You should be pleased. Having a numbers-gut like Christy in the division is great! And besides, you still have a remote chance (a bit lower than Hillary Clinton being president) that I could be promoting...

Christy will be missed - I am sure of that, but his campaign this season has been phenomenal!



First time I have gone above 12 wins in this division. Every season I have been in this division 15 wins has been enough but not so this time.

You have never let me really pull away with your own strong campaign. I was worried when you came into our division, relaxed when I thrashed you and have become steadily more worried since then.

My defense seems to have really stepped up this season to give me a good year. The offense was there already really but that is all down to the ages of the offense and defense.

I can try and get the sheet working as a Google sheet. I can also trim out a few things to make it easier to keep updated. I would love to see how numbers compare between divisions but don't have the time. Even between seasons has been interesting.



That loss to you was bad, but the worst was the loss to Spain Bulls in round 5.

Anyways, I will in worst case have a contending team in div III.5 and make some money (or loose less money). It is funnier winning than having a 9-9 season and not getting anywhere.

I have brushed off the old spreadsheet I used in season 16 when I was in TD and see if I have the time to do that. We could swap ideas, perhaps?

Good luck tomorrow. I do hope you loose and I win with 120+ points, but I fear that I lost the promotion in round 5 and since then just been trying to close the points gap.
  

"Quarterbacks should wear a dress." - Jack Lambert

If you are ever feeling down, just know that neither of Dorfenschmirtz's parents showed up to his birth.

Hard-core fan (ultimate supporter owner)ChristyGI Supporter
Posts: 2368
Joined: 2013-12-16
III.6
Offline
Hard-core fan (ultimate supporter owner)
Posted on 2017-01-27 11:04:37
I would like to swap ideas. I will have a look back at the season 16 top div thread at lunch today.

Any loss in a season like this will be frustrating. Especially one that close. I am aware of the pain of a 3 point loss. The other set me up nicely in terms of pd difference and happened first.

You will likely be heavy favourites for promotion next season depending on who drops.
  

"In archery we have something like the way of the superior man. When the archer misses the center of the target, he turns round and seeks for the cause of his failure in himself.”— Confucius

Hard-core fan (ultimate supporter owner)ChristyGI Supporter
Posts: 2368
Joined: 2013-12-16
III.6
Offline
Hard-core fan (ultimate supporter owner)
Posted on 2017-01-27 21:56:31
*double checks order*

Will look forward to Gnomes stats next season. Can't remember what they look like and the old link does not seem to work anymore unsurprisingly.
  

"In archery we have something like the way of the superior man. When the archer misses the center of the target, he turns round and seeks for the cause of his failure in himself.”— Confucius

pichipichi
Posts: 237
Joined: 2010-10-11
II.2
Offline
Posted on 2017-01-28 14:17:00
Wow!, today my defenders were doped. They have made eight sacks
  
Hard-core fan (ultimate supporter owner)ChristyGI Supporter
Posts: 2368
Joined: 2013-12-16
III.6
Offline
Hard-core fan (ultimate supporter owner)
Posted on 2017-01-28 18:50:30
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xuCnk1OweXBwD_fwNbgyWwhOAiP3VDuKgee9i9Ih7fs/edit?usp=sharing

New stats. As mentioned the Bulls DEs (and some LBs) had a field day against Gladiator. Any challenge from the Bulls next season will rely on Moises and Pedro to keep opponent offenses honest. The top pass rushers going against the worst pass blockers was always likely to produce something like this though I had not expected anything on this scale! Interestingly enough in spite of the score Baena had a bad game. However your receivers, especially Heras who has had a quiet season by his standards, made each catch count.

Crowns botted on offense. Olivos pulled out a good offensive performance to run the Sharks close but Iker had a great game at QB for the Sharks to hold off the challenge. It looks like Olivos have enough points difference to survive. It will be interesting to see if Sharks bounce back after a pretty terrible season for a side that should be challenging for the title.

My own game went as I had hoped. The defense made their tackles, I got pressures, kept pressure off of Staten and Staten delivered a good game. Dreier seemed to get bad rolls today but Moss got good ones and had a great game. Even in the second quarter as my defense got blitzed I was ok as I was making completions and big tds. I didn't think Nantes could keep up with me in the shoot it nearly turned into. I would have been much more worried if my offense was struggling as their defense could easily have won a defensive contest for them.


Now I just have to beat Chums (and hope Sharks don't bot I guess, man that would be frustrating).

  

"In archery we have something like the way of the superior man. When the archer misses the center of the target, he turns round and seeks for the cause of his failure in himself.”— Confucius

Hard-core fan (ultimate supporter owner)ChristyGI Supporter
Posts: 2368
Joined: 2013-12-16
III.6
Offline
Hard-core fan (ultimate supporter owner)
Posted on 2017-02-02 21:47:13
So I want to do a post on each of the 9 teams and how they got on statistically this season. I will do most during the offseason as we still have a game left. A few points first. I recently noticed how much consistency is needed to win a division.

Very unlikely or very likely events tend to have a higher variance as if you only expect something to happen 3 times a game then it only happening 2 is a big relative change that could be decided on a single play.

Events that have little opportunity to happen are subject to large variances. As above it means something is only expected to happen a few times so that any deviation is a big deal. A small variation that be caused by a single play. Essentially if you flip a coin twice the odds of two heads (which is not the expected result) is much higher than flipping a coin 1000 times and getting all heads.

So breaking tackles is a prime target for variability being unlikely and you only get the chance on a reception. Take a glance at individual matches in my stats and this bears out. Breaking tackles is great but an extra big td can change can add a few percent. Note that high variance just means the stat tends to bounce around a bigger range. Not that it can't be predicted or you can't change your odds.

Of course if you can't break tackles at all it limits your offense as this variability works both ways. Still it means a championship team should be able to get scores through hard graft without the broken tackles. If your opponent gets good luck on offense they will break tackles. Limit the rest of their scores though and suddenly you are in with a shout while getting unlucky.

Completion % (discounting pressures) is the other end of the spectrum with 40+ pass attempts and generally 50-60% completion rate. Pressures are in between. They could be involved in any play but are relatively rare events (~10%). I realised I have been recording the stats to see who is overly reliant on big yardage TDs or scoring without breaking tackles without compiling them properly. Obviously you want to be good at both but it should be interesting to see what the breakdown is.

Then there are stats that lean on the defense or offense more for their success rate. Completions seem to depend more on the offense. Tackles made on the defense. That is not to say that a good defense can't stop completions, just that how much they can do is limited. Pressures is fairly evenly distributed between how much an offense and a defense affects the number of pressures from what I have seen.
Last edited on 2017-02-02 at 23:06
  

"In archery we have something like the way of the superior man. When the archer misses the center of the target, he turns round and seeks for the cause of his failure in himself.”— Confucius

Gatr22GI Supporter
Posts: 14551
Joined: 2009-09-29
I.1
Offline
Posted on 2017-02-02 22:47:29
Christy wrote:

So I want to do a post on each of the 9 teams and how they got on statistically this season. I will do most during the offseason as we still have a game left. A few points first. I recently noticed how much consistency is needed to win a division.

Very unlikely or very likely events tend to have a higher variance as if you only expect something to happen 3 times a game then it only happening 2 is a big relative change that could be decided on a single play.

Events that have little opportunity to happen are subject to large variances. As above it means something is only expected to happen a few times so that any deviation is a big deal. A small variation that be caused by a single play. Essentially if you flip a coin twice the odds of two heads (which is not the expected result) is much higher than flipping a coin 1000 times and getting all heads.

So breaking tackles is a prime target for variability being unlikely and you only get the chance on a reception. Take a glance at individual matches in my stats and this bears out. Breaking tackles is great but an extra big td can change can add a few percent. Note that high variance just means the stat tends to bounce around a bigger range. Not that it can't be predicted or you can't change your odds.

Of course if you can't break tackles at all it limits your offense as this variability works both ways. Still it means a championship team should be able to get scores through hard graft without the broken tackles. If your opponent gets good luck on offense they will break tackles. Limit the rest of their scores though and suddenly you are in with a shout while getting unlucky.

Completion % (discounting pressures) is the other end of the spectrum with 40+ pass attempts and generally 50-60% completion rate. Pressures are in between. They could be involved in any play but are relatively rare events (~10%). I realised I have been recording the stats to see who is overly reliant on big yardage TDs or scoring without breaking tackles without compiling them properly. Obviously you want to be good at both but it should be interesting to see what the breakdown is.

Then there are stats that lean on the defense or offense more for their success rate. Completions seem to depend more on the offense. Tackles made on the defense. That is not to say that a good defense can't stop completions, just that how much they can do is limited. Pressures is fairly evenly distributed between them from what I have seen.



Very interesting stuff. I would just suggest that pressures/sacks are actually dominated by the DE's as compared to the LBs. Maybe I misunderstood you, but having tracked these stats, among others, for many seasons in the NA TD, the DE's run away with this stat. I'd be happy to send you the leaders stats for entire seasons. I think 10% as a team is fair for the average team, but your beasts on the line (both DEs together) should get in about 16% average per game if you are among the leaders in your TD. That would be just your DEs, so together with LBs, a tad bit higher.
  

Owner of the Orlando Gators FC
Member GIAC
League 383-173 (TD Champs S17,S21,S22)
Regional Cup 223-25 (Cup Champs S14,S15,S17,S19,S20,S21)
AFLC 45-14 (Iron Bowl Champs S18,S22,S23)

It's Great To Be A Florida Gator

Hard-core fan (ultimate supporter owner)ChristyGI Supporter
Posts: 2368
Joined: 2013-12-16
III.6
Offline
Hard-core fan (ultimate supporter owner)
Posted on 2017-02-02 23:05:22
Gatr22 wrote:

Christy wrote:

So I want to do a post on each of the 9 teams and how they got on statistically this season. I will do most during the offseason as we still have a game left. A few points first. I recently noticed how much consistency is needed to win a division.

Very unlikely or very likely events tend to have a higher variance as if you only expect something to happen 3 times a game then it only happening 2 is a big relative change that could be decided on a single play.

Events that have little opportunity to happen are subject to large variances. As above it means something is only expected to happen a few times so that any deviation is a big deal. A small variation that be caused by a single play. Essentially if you flip a coin twice the odds of two heads (which is not the expected result) is much higher than flipping a coin 1000 times and getting all heads.

So breaking tackles is a prime target for variability being unlikely and you only get the chance on a reception. Take a glance at individual matches in my stats and this bears out. Breaking tackles is great but an extra big td can change can add a few percent. Note that high variance just means the stat tends to bounce around a bigger range. Not that it can't be predicted or you can't change your odds.

Of course if you can't break tackles at all it limits your offense as this variability works both ways. Still it means a championship team should be able to get scores through hard graft without the broken tackles. If your opponent gets good luck on offense they will break tackles. Limit the rest of their scores though and suddenly you are in with a shout while getting unlucky.

Completion % (discounting pressures) is the other end of the spectrum with 40+ pass attempts and generally 50-60% completion rate. Pressures are in between. They could be involved in any play but are relatively rare events (~10%). I realised I have been recording the stats to see who is overly reliant on big yardage TDs or scoring without breaking tackles without compiling them properly. Obviously you want to be good at both but it should be interesting to see what the breakdown is.

Then there are stats that lean on the defense or offense more for their success rate. Completions seem to depend more on the offense. Tackles made on the defense. That is not to say that a good defense can't stop completions, just that how much they can do is limited. Pressures is fairly evenly distributed between them from what I have seen.



Very interesting stuff. I would just suggest that pressures/sacks are actually dominated by the DE's as compared to the LBs. Maybe I misunderstood you, but having tracked these stats, among others, for many seasons in the NA TD, the DE's run away with this stat. I'd be happy to send you the leaders stats for entire seasons. I think 10% as a team is fair for the average team, but your beasts on the line (both DEs together) should get in about 16% average per game if you are among the leaders in your TD. That would be just your DEs, so together with LBs, a tad bit higher.



Rereading it I was unclear. I meant the number of pressures is affected a lot by both the offense and defense. Unlike say completions (discounting plays involving pressure) which depends more on the offense than the defense so that a good offense will have a good completion rate and average pressure rate but a bad offense with a bad defense will have a bad completion rate with an average rate of pressures.

Did you peak at the stats:p. I am sitting at 15.62% right now. The Bulls are leading the league at 19.16%.

I will happily take those stats. I can pm you an email address?
  

"In archery we have something like the way of the superior man. When the archer misses the center of the target, he turns round and seeks for the cause of his failure in himself.”— Confucius

 
Last posts
2024-10-16 22:01
Survivor game
Author:RobTger
2024-10-16 17:56
Ligathread
Author:Klomgo
2024-10-16 15:15
Ligathread
Author:Baphomet
2024-10-16 13:15
Despre echipa nationala
Author:Radu27
2024-10-16 10:47
Fin de l'aventure.
Author:39Nicolas
2024-10-16 3:04
Survivor game
Author:PHI 21
2024-10-16 3:00
2024 predictions
Author:PHI 21